This was a very hard position for me. Hard to stay in it for a long time. Even with everything combined, it was my shoulders that hurt the most and I'm surprised I had lasted as long as I did. Then Martin took me down and tied me on the Red Chair. My crotch rope was tied to the back of the chair and my pony tail was tied to the ceiling until I re-gain myself for a few minutes before I'm tied in a standing position with my arms tied behind my back and my hair pulled to the ceiling again.