I this weekend I blow to pop a Tuf Tex 17" black,I am sure that yuo don't found another btp equal with a TT 17" this balloon is a monster, I realize now that will be huge and very soft so I continue to blow into the balloon, and I work with my hands touch it, he is soft and has a huge size "oversized" for a 17 "even his neck is long, but I still want to see him blow even bigger he ends up bursting into a thousand pieces. Enjoy....................